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updated August 01, 2011)

         
ARWEN'S MOD LIST
LOAD ORDER
         
Why Load Order is Important

One of the biggest problems in using mods is that they often conflict with one another. So it's first really important to use mods that are compatible with each other. But you can even have problems with compatible mods - unless they are loaded in the correct order. Mods that are loaded first can have some of their changes (to the game) overwritten by the mods that load after them.

Oblivion loads mods in order of their date, with "newer" mods loading last - overwriting the "older" mods. But loading mods by date can and does cause major problems. So how can we override the way in which mods are loaded?

Well, the best way that I know is through the Oblivion Mod Manager (OBMM). OBMM makes this very simple: all you do is select the esp or esm and click on a [move up] or [move down] button or just drag the esp up or down in the load order with your mouse (note: always load all the esm's before loading any esp's)

 
 
Arwen's Mod Load Order List

The chart below is the load order (from first, to last) that I'm currently using for my mods. Much of this load order is based upon suggestions in the mod's Readme file, or from what others have suggested. Please understand that my load order may not be perfect - but it does seem to work ok in my game (as far as I can tell).

So feel free to use this as a guide - but only as a guide. And please email me if you know that any part of this load order needs to be adjusted. The mods in BOLD are the ones that are covered on my mods pages (and are linked to those pages). The [Green Ones] have been merged into the Bash Patch (with Wrye Bash), and are unchecked in the OBMM (meaning these mods are deactivated, but the mod still loads, since it is now integrated into the Bash Patch)

Plugins esm's

Part of MOD Order Rule

Oblivion.esm Oblivion Master File Must load first
Cobl Main.esm Cobl (common Oblivion) Before OOO

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul

AFC v2 Core.esm Adrenalin Fueled Combat

BathingMod_Base.esm

Bathing Mod

Bab.esm

BAB Adventuress Body

EnhancedWeather.esm Enhanced Weather
TamrielTravellers.esm Tamriel Travelers
Better Cities Resources.esm Better Cities

Plugins esp's

Part of MOD

Order Rule

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch

UOP is the first esp to load

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch

UOP 2
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch UOP 3
DLCShiveringIsles.esp DLC Shivering Isles SI is first add-on esp to load
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch SI UOP
SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp SM Plugin Refurbish SI Add-on
Knights.esp Knights of the Nine KON
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Unofficial Official Mods Patch KON Patch
[SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp] SM Plugin Refurbish Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLC Battlehorn Castle Battlehorn
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp Unofficial Official Mods Patch Battlehorn Patch
SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp SM Plugin Refurbish Battlehorn Add-on 1

BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp

Battlehorn Castle Enhanced Battlehorn Add-on 2
DLCHorseArmor.esp Horse Armor Horse Armor
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp Unofficial Official Mods Patch Horse Armor Patch
SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp SM Plugin Refurbish Horse Armor Add-on
DLCThievesDen.esp Thieves' Den Thieves' Den
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp Unofficial Official Mods Patch Thieves' Den Patch 1
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Unofficial Official Mods Patch Thieves' Den Patch 2
SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp SM Plugin Refurbish Thieves' Den Add-on

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion

Before OOO (with Wrye Bash)
Cobl Glue.esp Cobl (common Oblivion) Cobl 1 (before OOO)
Cobl Si.esp Cobl (common Oblivion) Coble 2 (if SI)
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp Cobl (common Oblivion) Cobl 3 (before OOO)
[Cobl Tweaks.esp] Cobl (common Oblivion) Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
Cobl Silent Equip. Misc.esp Cobl (common Oblivion)
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp Cobl - Salmo the Baker Cobl 5 (optional)
Real Hunger, Cobl.esp Real Hunger, Cobl After Cobl
FF_Real_Thirst.esp FF Real Thirst Before Better Cities
FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp FF Real Thirst After Real Thirst & Cobl

BathingMod_Soap.esp

Bathing Mod

BathingMod_Bathroom Upgrades.esp

Bathing Mod

BathingMod_Placeable Bathtubs.esp

Bathing Mod

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy

Before OOO

Choices and Consequences.esp

Choices and Consequences Load just before OOO

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul

OOO
Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp Choices and Consequences After OOO
Cutthroat Merchants.esp Living Economy
Living Economy - Items.esp Living Economy
[TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp] Tamriel Travelers TT-1 (optional) After OOO Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp

TamrielTravellers4000.esp

Tamriel Travelers

TT-2 After OOO

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

Tamriel Travelers TT-3 After OOO

TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp

Tamriel Travelers

TT-4 After OOO

TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp

Tamriel Travelers

TT-5 After OOO

[Bab.esp]

BAB Adventuress Body

Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp

Ethereal - Eyes.esp

Ethereal - Eyes

Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp

Corean Hair for Original Race

BabShop.esp

BAB Adventuress Body

BAB
[KnightsBabFemaleArmors.esp] BAB Adventuress Body Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
Babarized BrashLeatherArmors.esp Babarized Brash Leather Armors BAB add-on
Babarized RareTradeGoods.esp Babarized RareTradeGoods Before Better Cities
LexNewtscale.esp Lextons Scales Armour

P1DmenuEscape.esp

Menu Escape

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt Updated

kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp Auto Save and Time

2nd to 1st person.esp

2nd to 1st person

Days&Months.esp

Days & Months

SoT_Holiday.esp

SOT Holidays

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora]

[Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp]

Harvest [Flora]

Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp

Q - More and Moldy Ingredients.esp

Q - More and Moldy Ingredients

Inebriation.esp Intoxicant Improvement After OOO
[Cyrodilic Brandy.esp] Intoxicant Improvement After OOO - Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
[CM_Better Wine.esp] Intoxicant Improvement After OOO - Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
CBScrying.esp CBScrying

Bag of Alchemy.esp

Bag of Alchemy

kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp

Inventory is a Backpack

kuerteeSittableRocks.esp Sittable Rocks
[FewerOBGates.esp] Fewer Oblivion Gates Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
CampfireBehavior.esp Campfire Behavior Before Real Lights
LightsOut.esp Lights Out
Dungeon Actors Have Torches DT.esp Dungeon Actors Have Torches Before Drop Lit Torches
Exterior Actors Have Torches DT.esp Exterior Actors Have Torches Before Drop Lit Torches

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp

Drop Lit Torches OBSE After OOO
[[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp] Initial Glow Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
_Real_Lights.esp Real Lights Before Better Cities
(and Enhanced Weather)

Get Wet-just droplets.esp

Get Wet

SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp Skycaptain's Blood Time
[ln.esp] Louder Nirnroots Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp

MIS Low Wind.esp

More Immersive Sound Edited

AmbientTownSounds_edited.esp

Ambient Town Sounds

Before Better Cities

PCSoundMazzy.esp

Oblivion Sound Sets

diversegrasses.esp Diverse Grasses

Rainbows.esp

Rainbows in Tamriel

Storms & Sound SI.esp Storms & Sound Before Enhanced Weather
EnhancedWeather.esp Enhanced Weather Enhanced Weather main
EnhancedWeather - SI.esp Enhanced Weather Enhanced Weather for SI
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp Enhanced Water
[Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp] Enhanced Water Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp

AliveWaters.esp

Alive Waters

After OOO

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

Alive Waters

After OOO

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Alive Waters

After OOO
LadyDeadlock_LoveYour Horse.esp Lady Deadlock Love Your Horse

[FineWeapons for OOO.esp]

FineWeapons for OOO After OOO
Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp

[RustyItems for OOO.esp]

RustyItems for OOO

After OOO
Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp

ZumbslockpickingMod - OBSE.esp

Zumbs Lockpicking Mod

PersuasionOverhaul.esp

Persuasion Overhaul

[PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp]

Persuasion Overhaul

After OOO
Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp

Roleplaying Dialogues.esp

Roleplaying Dialogues Before Reneer's Guard Overhaul
Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp Enhanced Quest Roleplaying

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

Reneer's Guard Overhaul

After OOO

RenGuardOverhaulShivering Isles.esp

Reneer's Guard Overhaul

After OOO
OOO-Ayleid Coin Add-on.esp OOO-Ayleid Coin Add-on After OOO

kuerteeGoldIsAnInventory Item.esp

Gold is an Inventory Item

StealthOverhaul.esp

Stealth Overhaul

DD_ProximitySneakPenalty.esp DD Proximity Sneak Penalty

RealisticForceMedium.esp

Realistic Physics & Force

RealisticMagicForceLow.esp

Realistic Physics & Force

kuerteeEncumberingLootArmour And Weapons.esp Encumbering Loot Armor & Weapons
kuerteeNPCsYield.esp NPCs Yield
kuerteeIgnoringTheMainQuestHas Consequences.esp Ignoring the Main Quest has Consequences
Thingamajigs Broken Armor DD Edit HARD.esp Thingamajigs Broken Armor
OWE&P.esp Oblivion Wound Effects & Penalties
AFC v2 Damage Text.esp Adrenalin Fueled Combat
AFC v2 Locational Damage.esp Adrenalin Fueled Combat
RealisticLeveling.esp Realistic Leveling
RealisticFatigue.esp Realistic Fatigue
RealisticHealth.esp Realistic Health
RealSleepExtended.esp Real Sleep Extended
P1DseeYouSleep.esp See You Sleep After Real Sleep
7lbsBedrolls-OBSE.esp aaaBors Bedrolls AFTER See You Sleep
(but no animation with bedrolls)
bgBalancingEVCore.esp Race Balancing Project Load late, but before DP Archery - RBP Patch
Lyre's Imperial City Bab Boutique.esp Lyre's Imperial City Bab Boutique Before Better Cities
Cities Alive At Night.esp Cities Alive At Night
WindowLightingSystem.esp Animated Window Lighting System - Meshes
Cyrodiil transportation network.esp Cyrodiil Transportation
FF_WaldnirsWoods.esp FF Waldnirs Woods After OOO (but loss of harvest container animation for FF-WW)
The Lost Spires.esp The Lost Spires Load late, after OOO, before BC
OldCrowInn.esp Old Crow Inn Before Better Cities
LetThePeopleDrink.esp Let The People Drink Before Better Cities
Extinguish the Lights.esp Extinguish the Lights before BC
moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp Better Cities City Life - patched for BC

ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC OCLR Vanilla.esp

Better Cities Extras

Clocks of Cyrodiil for BC

za_bankmod.esp

Better Cities Extras

Bank of Cyrodiil for BC
Better Cities Full.esp Better Cities Better Cities 1
Better Imperial City.esp Better Cities IC Better Cities 2 (optional)
Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp Better Cities BC 3 (optional)
Better Cities - Old Crow Inn.esp Better Cities BC Patch for Old Crow Inn
[Better Cities - COBL.esp] Better Cities BC Patch for Cobl
Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp Better Cities BC Patch for Leyawiin
[Item Interchange - Extraction.esp] Item Interchange Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
[Item Interchange - Placement.esp] Item Interchange Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
[Symphony of Violence.esp] Symphony of Violence Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
[Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp] Cobl (common Oblivion) Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Wrye Bash Near end - Before Duke P mods
Better Cities.esp Better Cities Resources BSA Must load after Bashed Patch

[TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp]

TNR All Races Final

Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
[TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp] TNR - Shivering Isles No Helms Merged w/ Wrye - uncheck esp
Dark Dungeons- SI.esp Darker Dungeons Load after all interior/light mods
Streamline 3.1.esp Streamline
Duke Patricks - Basic Hypothermia.esp DP Basic Hypothermia Duke Patrick (1)
Duke Patricks Near Miss Magic & Arrow Shots Alert The Target.esp DP Near Miss Alerts Duke Patrick (2)
Duke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.esp DP Magic You Can Believe In Duke Patrick (2)
Duke Patricks - NPC MAGIC and Arrows Can Miss Now.esp DP NPC Can Miss Duke Patrick (2)
Duke Patricks - SCA style combat NO RECOIL Rev 6.esp DP SCA Style Combat Duke Patrick (3)
Duke Patricks SCA Combat Archery.esp DP SCA
Combat Archery
Duke Patrick (4)
Duke Patricks Basic Script Effect Silencer.esp DP Basic Script Effect Silencer Must load after all other mods

 
 
Texture Replacer MODs

 (mods without any esp's or esm's - so no way to set load order)

But installation order can still be important, since textures installed later will overwrite earlier ones.

Hint: if a texture doesn't seem to be appearing in your game, use OBMM to deactivate and then reactivate it. (It's also always a really good idea to read the mod's ReadMe file, and to follow the author's instructions.)

Part of MOD Installation Order

Arrow Replacement Pack

Arwen's DP SCA Combat Sound Patch install after DP's SCA Combat

Babarized Female Armor Pack

BAB OOO Armor (OOO Patch)

install after OOO
Beaming Sunglare

Bomrets Detailed Normal Maps

Cooked Steaks

DarkUI DarN
DarkUI Supplemental Pack
Diverse Grasses LOD

Elf Female Younger Voice Replacement

Elven Map Redux

Elven Map for Shivering Isles

Glittering Prizes

Improved Fruits, Vegetables & Meats

Improved Signs Complete

Kafei's Better Amulets and Rings

Full_Landscape_LOD_Textures_Replacement_v1.0_OMOD

LOD Noise Replacer - Medium

Natural Faces

Facial Textures by Enayla

install after Natural Faces
Really AEVWD
Real Night Sky
Shipyard install before Better Cities

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